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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 23:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aww fank yew Smile i know my accent is crap tho :p

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 23:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no it´s not... at least you´re trying, and thats the important part...
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tideypoo wrote:
aww fank yew Smile i know my accent is crap tho :p

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Haha, jag tror aldrig jag hört dig säga ett enda ord på svenska, fegis. Razz

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its not MY fault that you drink so heavily you cant remember our converstaions! Razz Razz Razz Razz Razz Razz
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fairlane wrote:
Tideypoo wrote:
aww fank yew Smile i know my accent is crap tho :p

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Haha, jag tror aldrig jag hört dig säga ett enda ord på svenska, fegis. Razz
i'm with retard

...and could it be, Tidey, that your accent sucks cause you don't practice it? Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 14:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

actually, i make with the swedish speaking 5 days a week at school, including those pesky presentations that go along with most university courses... I watch the news in swedish, read my special swedish newspapers on the subway (free is good!) and conduct all contact with people who are NOT friends in swedish... except friends from school, whom i speak swedish to.

I still answer the phone with "HELLO?!" becuase its MY house and I can do what I like here, but the rest of the call is done in swedish (unless its a pesky telemarketer, then i unload both barrels of the "i no speaka da swedish" shotgun at them and hang up hehe)

I stick with english in my free time because I WANT to.. it takes me about 5 times as long to get anything done in swedish, and the first thing people do is point out spelling/grammar mistakes, or switch to speaking english to me if they notice I misunderstand something... my biggest probelm is that I have NO ability to say anything remotely funny in swedish.. despite hours of dedication to watching comics and listening to amusing song texts.... so even though I can write a scienctific paper on "husmossa" I cant think of anything clever to say...

My accent is crap because I think that 98% of north americans speak swedish with an accent that makes my ears start bleeding. Its painful and yucky. I wont ever like it (sorta like surströmming...).

And its kinda amusing that the first thing I notice about people who have english as a second language is how well they speak, whereas my experiance here has entailed a lot of "well youre not very good.. lets speak english" even when I thought I was doing well.

So, inconclustion, I'll do what I like, thank you very much :p

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 14:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I stick with english in my free time because I WANT to.. it takes me about 5 times as long to get anything done in swedish, and the first thing people do is point out spelling/grammar mistakes,

Jag brukar korrigera mina vänner som inte har svenska som modersmål, under förutsättning att jag vet att de vill lära sig korrekt, samt under förutsättning att det inte sker för ofta eller avbryter en berättelse.
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or switch to speaking english to me if they notice I misunderstand something...

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my biggest probelm is that I have NO ability to say anything remotely funny in swedish..

Well, that isn't really a language issue is it? Razz

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sålänge de skriver normalt så är det bara gött med lite förortsnytt... men när det hela tiden ska vara så "fett" "chill" "leeeäään" "blatte" "svenne" osv så blir det lite aa... löjligt... men men... det kanske bara e jag..



håller med till fullo dom kallar oss svennar o benämner sig själva som blattar hittar inte det rasistiska i det hela där dom e jämnlika på sitt egna lilla sätt Very Happy

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jag satt och snackade med en svartskalleblatte på jobbet om detta (han är indier-finsk-svensk) och vi båda tyckte det här med ord som blatte, svartskalle och svenne är lite löjliga.
De har blivit dåliga ord för att de använts dåligt.

Vi snackade om det här med rakade skallar;
För 10 år sen var det i princip BARA nassar/rassar som hade rakat huvud (om man inte räknar med alla svarta idrottsmän osv).
Nuförtiden ser man rakade skallar till höger och vänster; skinheads, hiphopare, hårdrockare, finansmän, popsnören, latinos, afrosvenskar, kvinnor, gamla gubbar osv osv
Begreppet "rakad = rasist" har helt enkelt blivit urvattnat iom att många människor insett att frisyren både är snygg och praktisk.

Börjar man använda ord som svenne, blatte, svartskalle, neger osv som synonymer för vad de egentligen är (svensk(vit), sydeurope, mellanösterier, afrosvensk) tror jag att även dessa ord kommer bli urvattnade och inte tas som provokativa.

Visst, det kommer alltid dyka upp nya ord för allt ont, det kommer vi aldrrig komma ifrån.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FReNuLuM wrote:
Jag satt och snackade med en svartskalleblatte på jobbet om detta (han är indier-finsk-svensk) och vi båda tyckte det här med ord som blatte, svartskalle och svenne är lite löjliga.
De har blivit dåliga ord för att de använts dåligt.

Vi snackade om det här med rakade skallar;
För 10 år sen var det i princip BARA nassar/rassar som hade rakat huvud (om man inte räknar med alla svarta idrottsmän osv).
Nuförtiden ser man rakade skallar till höger och vänster; skinheads, hiphopare, hårdrockare, finansmän, popsnören, latinos, afrosvenskar, kvinnor, gamla gubbar osv osv
Begreppet "rakad = rasist" har helt enkelt blivit urvattnat iom att många människor insett att frisyren både är snygg och praktisk.

Börjar man använda ord som svenne, blatte, svartskalle, neger osv som synonymer för vad de egentligen är (svensk(vit), sydeurope, mellanösterier, afrosvensk) tror jag att även dessa ord kommer bli urvattnade och inte tas som provokativa.

Visst, det kommer alltid dyka upp nya ord för allt ont, det kommer vi aldrrig komma ifrån.


Jag måste faktiskt hålla med dig på den här punkten. Självklart måste man använda orden för att de ska bli utvattnade. Samma sak med ordet fitta, som jag så stenhårt använder så ofta jag kan. Det är inte lätt att få en fin klang i fitta eftersom det alltför ofta används i dåliga termer, antingen sitter en fitta bara på en "smutsig" porraktris eller så e fitta en svordom och används när något dåligt har hänt. En fitta är ju som vi alla vet det vackraste som finns, precis som att en svartskalle faktiskt har ett svart hår på sin skalle som till och med kan vara vackert.
Jag vet att jag har varit en av dem som stark motsatt mig användandet av ordet neger, negerboll och dyl. Det har berott på att det faktiskt inte passar sig att använda de orden hur som helst, det är en process som tar tid, och är man i goda vänners lag så får man använda de ord som passar där, och i samhället som stort får de laddade orden smygas in pö om pö. För tar man i så man spricker på fel ställe kan man lätt få stämpel "oseriös" i pannan och ens ansträngningar om att spränga vallar gå förlorade.
Så en dag, kan till och med lilla jag tänka mig att använda fraser som neger och svarting ohämmat, och den dagen är då dessa fraser är urvattnade på det sätt som Fren tidigare beskrivit det.

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