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[Harliga]Nerf



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 17:01 pm    Post subject: Elektriker hjälp Reply with quote

Hej, tänkte bara fråga en fråga:

Jag har ett lamputtag,ett vägguttag och en vanlig strömbrytare (enkel knapp,ingen dubbeltrapp eller något konstigt) men jag vet inte vad jag ska ha för några sladdar till dessa komponenter?

Ska jag ha fas,nolla och jord på vägguttaget?(brun,blå och gul/grön?)
Ska jag ha tänntråd,fas och jord på lamputtaget?(vit,brun och gul/grön?)
Ska jag ha fas och nolla på strömbrytaren? (brun och blå?)

Jag ska alltså koppla in detta i skloan på ett litet bord som man ska göra, man ska koppla detta och med hjälp utav strömbrytaren tända och släcka lampan).

Det var ett tag sen jag gjorde det och kommer inte iåhg nu, och ska göra den övningen i skloan imorgon, kan någon hjälpa mig?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 17:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fas, nolla o jord till v.uttaget
Tändtråd, nolla o jord till lamputtaget
Fas o tändtråd strömbrytare
Fas=svart
Tändtråd=brun, vit
Nolla=blå
Jord=Gul/grön
Vet du hur du kopplar lr?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 17:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ja det tror jag väl att jag vet, vi får alla komponenter, och så får vi en trätavla med borrade hål som det sitter doser i alltså såna där runda som man kan skruva fast lamputtaget och allt det andra på.

Det är ju bara till att sätta i dom sladdarna i komponenterna och så måste man ju tvinna ihop sladdarna i slutet med hjälp utav toppklämmor, fast där vet jag inte vilka sladdar som ska tvinnad ihop med vilka?

Det är väl så att man tvinnar ihop alla blå för sig och alla bruna och så för sig eller hur är det de funkar?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 17:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 17:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

något elschema behöver jag inte , enklare om du berättar för mig!

Men är inte fas=brun? eller ska fas vara svart?

Förstår inte hur du menar det elsnchemat ändå!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 18:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fasen kan vara Brun,Svart,Vit.

Sedan som du ska koppla det är det så här, direkt från elcentralen till eluttaget ska du ha Fas,Nolla,Jord.

Till strömbrytaren räcker det med att du har Fas till, sedan ifrån strömbrytaren så ska du ha en tänd tråd som går till din lampa. Fast där ska även gå en Nolla och Jord till din lampa, kvittar om din lampa ska jordas eller inte. Jord ska alltid finnas framdragit på nya installsioner.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bolero wrote:
Fasen kan vara Brun,Svart,Vit.

Sedan som du ska koppla det är det så här, direkt från elcentralen till eluttaget ska du ha Fas,Nolla,Jord.

Till strömbrytaren räcker det med att du har Fas till, sedan ifrån strömbrytaren så ska du ha en tänd tråd som går till din lampa. Fast där ska även gå en Nolla och Jord till din lampa, kvittar om din lampa ska jordas eller inte. Jord ska alltid finnas framdragit på nya installsioner.

Mvh // Rasmus som går Elinstallatör Tredje året.

Vid 1-fas installationer brukar fasen vara svart.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 13:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

McRae(Forza Malm*o*) wrote:
Bolero wrote:
Fasen kan vara Brun,Svart,Vit.

Sedan som du ska koppla det är det så här, direkt från elcentralen till eluttaget ska du ha Fas,Nolla,Jord.

Till strömbrytaren räcker det med att du har Fas till, sedan ifrån strömbrytaren så ska du ha en tänd tråd som går till din lampa. Fast där ska även gå en Nolla och Jord till din lampa, kvittar om din lampa ska jordas eller inte. Jord ska alltid finnas framdragit på nya installsioner.

Mvh // Rasmus som går Elinstallatör Tredje året.

Vid 1-fas installationer brukar fasen vara svart.
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Fel... Fas är brun, men de flesta kablar har svart som fas just för att det är gamla kablar. Uppdatera dig. Razz

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 14:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fas bör vara "svart" kabel
Nolla skall vara Blå
Jord skall vara Grön/Gul
Tändtråden bör vara vit, orange, grön (Bara för att det skall vara lätt att urskilja om det nu skulle vara så att du har 3 Fas med i samma rör, vilket iof inte brukar vara fallet).

"Överkurs" 3-Fas brukar vara L1=svart L2=Svart/vit L3=Brun eller
L1=svart L2=Brun L3=Blå.

Alla kablar skall vara av dimensionen 1,5 kvadrat om
du har avsäkrat med 10 amp säkring.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 14:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

McRae(Forza Malm*o*) wrote:
Bolero wrote:
Fasen kan vara Brun,Svart,Vit.

Sedan som du ska koppla det är det så här, direkt från elcentralen till eluttaget ska du ha Fas,Nolla,Jord.

Till strömbrytaren räcker det med att du har Fas till, sedan ifrån strömbrytaren så ska du ha en tänd tråd som går till din lampa. Fast där ska även gå en Nolla och Jord till din lampa, kvittar om din lampa ska jordas eller inte. Jord ska alltid finnas framdragit på nya installsioner.

Mvh // Rasmus som går Elinstallatör Tredje året.

Vid 1-fas installationer brukar fasen vara svart.
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Du är helt ute och reser Smile Det gäller brun vid en-fasiga installasioner. Blå som nolla. Dock så får man ha blå som tex tändtråd också. Sedan vilken färg faserna har som vi kör efter är L1 Brun L2 Svart L3 Vit

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 19:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok ... en fråga bara, vart står denna info om att Brun skulle vara
ny fas-färg, har inte sett några papper på detta, kan iof ha missat.
Men om jag inte miss-minner mig så är det väl tex EKK fortfarande,
Svart blå Gul/Grön, eller minns jag fel?
Jag själv Tattar iof inte kabel i VP-rör i hus osv ... det kan ju va därför jag missat denna förändring ...Håller mest på med Fk/Rk i Apparatskåp, samt en och annan Ölflex lr Novaflex kabel.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 19:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kan inte säga var det står eftersom jag varken minns eller bryr mig det minsta. Men eftersom dom lär ut brun som fas i skolorna nu så bör det ju vara så.

Ja, EKK är fortfarande svart, blå, gröngul. Just därför det är en gammal kabel. Dom har nya kablar med brun som fas men jag har sett ytterst få.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 21:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

G-Gnu wrote:
Ok ... en fråga bara, vart står denna info om att Brun skulle vara
ny fas-färg, har inte sett några papper på detta, kan iof ha missat.
Men om jag inte miss-minner mig så är det väl tex EKK fortfarande,
Svart blå Gul/Grön, eller minns jag fel?
Jag själv Tattar iof inte kabel i VP-rör i hus osv ... det kan ju va därför jag missat denna förändring ...Håller mest på med Fk/Rk i Apparatskåp, samt en och annan Ölflex lr Novaflex kabel.



Det står i mina läroböcker ;D kan kolla upp med min lärare vart jag kan hitta denna informationen.

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